there were tens of thousands of people killed a couple of years ago in myanmar in massive floods. in other words, everybody senses, americans sense all over the country, things are changing massively and frighteningly, whether this storm is part of that or not, we're just hunkering down right now to try to avoid the worst of this one. >> chuck, isn't it fascinating that back in 2004, 2005, 2006 -- >> but joe -- >> -- politicians were talking about climate change. they just aren't talking about it this year. >> not a word. >> you and i grew up in florida. do you ever remember in your lifetime a hurricane season that has gone to the letter "s"? we have named a storm to the letter "s." it was -- you know, it used to be, look, our grocery store used to do the paper bags, and they'd tell you the names of the storms. as a kid, you were, like, curious. what are the names going to be this year and all this stuff. and you figured, well, you always got -- you got to "h," "i," sometimes "j." you remember gloria was a late storm. >> irene. >> that was "g." we got to "s." we're regularly now g